You can get it when you have five glowshrooms in your inventory (You can find it in the nortcrest cave (south entrance) when you first visit the place or in the lake of purification (when you enter the location there's a chance to find those)). With five go to witch or priestess. In the future updates there will be other options too.
Yeah, not every sprite is ready. So you won't always see your opponent.
You can have a guide in the update log (at the end of it), it'll tell you all you need to know for having them (but you'll have to finish the bandit's camp story to have them).
I've been hyped about this game since I discovered it at its 0.14 update. And heck, it never cease to amaze me! Much love for the creator of this game as well as the graphic artist.
And I found while I played this several times since the 0.14 up to 0.15.2 patch is that Bernard's hunting event seems to only be triggered after finishing the quest about bringing 10 spectral syrup. I mean, is it just me or the hunting event seems to had gotten a bit hard to trigger now because I need to gather much ingredients for those 10 syrups. In patch 13.2 or less (I dunno), the hunting event can be triggered after finishing the Lost Friend quest and telling him about werewolves. I don't really know if that's intended but I don't really mind. Or maybe I'm just the only one experiencing it? IDK
IT'S STILL ONE OF THE BEST GAMES THAT I PLAYED! Thank you for this magnificent creation!
Yes. I changed it at some point. It was easier to do that, than checking if the sickness event isn't ongoing (I forget about it and you could actually meet Bernard in the hut when he was supposed to be sick).
I kinda screw it because I wanted the hunt to be available only after you cure Bernard. Not after the quest with surups. So I'll make another change in 0.17.
So, how do I trigger the Barrel x Logan scene ? I've trigger the Scene at Camp, but when I visit Sawmill at night, it's still the same closed sawmill without any kind of scenes.
Did you finish the bandit's camp story ? I think it's when that is over that the bandits go to town, then you should be able to see this (wonderful) scene
How do I trigger the Lusty Chaos Bad End for the tribe? I lack the lust points for the Acolytes. Hyao said in the comments that you can only get lust points for the Acolytes in events and quests from before. I've already beaten Rhousk (Although I have save files way before that, so I can replay), so are there are any more ways to add more lust points for the Acolytes? (I have 11 for the Warriors). Thanks!
It says that the lust of warriors and acolyte combined have to be 10, so if you have 11 for warriors, it should be okay, no ? And you told to the priestess to talk about the lake to the others ? It may happen after you've defeated Rhousk and bring him to her, but not sure, I can't beat Rhousk x)
oh! I didn't know it was a "combined" amount! So whatever amount it is, if both are added to make a 10, then it's all good? I have to replay back to the save file in the lake, because I chose to keep it a secret lol. Suuuuper thanks! Btw, great game Hyao! Just came back after a few months :>
Yes, that is correct. The combined amount must be 10. But you also have to convince Othra to tell others about the lake. If she keeps it secret then other lizards are not using the lake which means they didn't deplete its energy.
The Love Potion Scene of Barrel was a surprise, I didn't expect that (And was a very good surprise xD) The other things in the update were revealed or predictible so, in general, was a good update
The other day I was thinking: In the map, the brown part it's supose to be water no? maybe a future "enemy" could be pirates or something related to the sea?
Thanks for everything Hyao!
Sorry, I need to say it or i will explote, BRING BACK TANK! (as a romance interest too) xD
I don't want to talk much about the future, I have some plans for things that can appear. But I want it to be a surprise too. But I can tell that Tank will be back. Like Arkenophas said, him and Scar are related to the Northcrest story, so I need to reach that area first.
First off, great game, and I am highly enjoying it. I am on day 93 and still no mention of hunt from Bernard. I already mentioned werewolves about his lost friend and went to the cottage at night of friday between 800 and 000. still no prompt. please help.
Did you had a talk with him "Ask about the hunt"? That's the first thing you have to do, then you need to visit the abandoned hut on friday night between those hours
I've had this issue too. Talking about the hunt never came up, I mentioned the werewolves to him and he acknowledged it. Doesn't bring up the option to ask about the hunt. Does he need a certain level of affection with me before this happens?
Try finishing all quests for both Bernard and Logan. Logan might be holding you back with his hunt werewoofs quest.
Additionally, I think it was said somewhere that, once the conditions were right, Bernard has to MENTION the hunt in order for the Ask about hunt option to appear, and I think that only happens on certain days of the week.
Bernard is supposed to talk about the hunt right after you mention werewolves about his friend. My older saves where I romanced him are still there, but I've tried going about it the same way doesn't work. I've maxed out the lumberjacks quests and cured the shopkeeper, talking with him every day afterwards and the option still doesn't show. I think it's bugged and just doesn't appear.
A big part of that is pets. They take up a whopping three slots. Combine that with Korg (who currently has no use except for a single lewd scene that you cannot control), and that's half of the options right there.
Clearly, either moving the pets options to the pets screen or creating a single option to list them under is in order.
Naming animals isn't supposed to be there. I just didn't find a good way to put it into a screen, that's why it looks like that for now. I'll try to do something with it.
I can't seem to do that either, despite having run into the werewolf several times. Also, I accidentally went the Logan bottom route when I meant to go for the normal route and now I'm way too far into the game haha. Is there any way at all I can revert him without having to make a brand new save? Took ages to get everything the way I wanted it apart from him :P
You need to have the bandits low morale so they start attacking you in places again then when you rest at night there's a chance for them to attack and he fights them off.
You need to use lure during the fight (Preferably few of them). Enemy get tamable status. Then you need to finish the fight in any way (Except losing or escaping). If you have a free spot in the prison (3 max for now) then the creature is captured (100% chances is after using 5 lures)
Warriors Lust and Acolyte Lust is only gained from event and quests. There's an acolyte around ruins that you can give lust potion, you can give Lust potion to Rhot when you are talking with him. You can offer relief to warriors and it also gives some points. A lot of points can be gain when doing Lost Acolyte quest and picking the lusty options.
Hi, I found the game yesterday and I love it, great work! I have a question about the acolytes quest, I read previous posts and found answer that the last one is on Ruins, but I don't know how to find her, the only options I have when entering the ruins is enter the temple and talk to the healer. Could someone give me a hint what should I do?
found a bug - when you talk with innkeeper and told him what you really did at the camp, there is a scene where he talks about Barrel - Love potion and rat option even when that didnt happen
1. Meet the lizard tribe and do the lost acolytes quest to gain access to Forbbiden temple and Inner Shrine. Open the mysterious gate in Inner Shrine by finding all three pieces of a lizard statue. Go to underground Forbidden Temple and Wait for Roughsk
yeah im pretty sure my logan is a power bottom and im in the mine at night and cant seem to get this to work all i get is the blacksmith is in the cave mining
I can't seem to get the bad ending which would take Roushk to prison. I keep getting the good ending despite have chosen to "tell the others about the lake". How do we take him back home?
I have my Sanity at 5, as low as it can go, playing a female character and I'm not seeing any option or change. Is there something else I'm missing here?
I couldn't tell if it was me but I think that's the lowest it can go for him it may not be an "ending" but some extra text because on my make character I got some excess text afterwords where my character said he wanted more but then passed out and that was it
I can't seem to get Barrel to appear in the bar anymore. He appeared for a while after the bandit camp story, but now he stopped coming around. Is it because I donated supplies to the camp?
I was wondering about this too. I don't really want to keep prisoners but I still wouldn't mind knowing how it works. I was kind of hopeing it would become something like. You can build a prison and keep 3 or 4 prisoners and get ingredients based on there drops you normally find when you beat them in battle. Or you can build a room have one of them live with you and they help gather ingredients near the house while your away. That way one gives you an unlimited supply of multiple ingredients and the other nicer option gives you a few random ingredients a day.
after you build a prison you can start to learn things that can help catch some things. for example you can learn to catch reptiles from the witch in the swamp she will sell you what you need but you can later learn in your self. they want you to use more then one to have a better chance but I saves mid battle and keeps reloading until I catch them. the reptile one also works on rapters so you can get an awesome mount the only thing I cant figure out is how to put the mounts back in your stable to let them rest. they seem to be stuck following me around.
Thanks, after ur hint I unlock the cave finally. Btw,how can I make the Love potion and aphrodisiac? It’s hard to understand the pic which the Witch shows, and especially it is some kind of a holy leaf in the third formula?
Well, you should usually have some leafs that can be considered holy. It's just a pun really. If you really want to find out, you can go to the guide and check all recipes there.
Yeah, the "holy" leaf, you should already have some, just look at the names you see ^^ And in the case of, for the heart of blue and green monsters, there's two kind of jellys (I didn't notice that at first x) )
The one you will be missing is the heat one after checking the note about it from the Study option in your home, you can either have a look at the Recipe guide this game has for it or you can ask the white lizardess inside the inner temples in the Ruins about it and she teach it to you for free after doing the quest for finding the 3 missing lizardess.
No problem, and feel free to ask anyone on here about anything you have trouble on, even the owner of the game himself if you want to, since he was making the game and should know how to do certain things or trigger certain scenes.
Well, Hyao said he usually tries to update to public version a month after the Patreon version is updated. He also said that the update will come at the end of the month, so that could be tomorrow to the 31st (obviously)
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Will you make a Android version?
Maybe. Not soon though.
He will, but it's not his priority
I am very into this game, im enjoying it a lot and i have some questions
I'm stuck in getting a light source for the dark areas, i dont know where to get it
I cant see some of the characters, is that because the game is still in development or i have a bug?
Thank you!
You can get it when you have five glowshrooms in your inventory (You can find it in the nortcrest cave (south entrance) when you first visit the place or in the lake of purification (when you enter the location there's a chance to find those)). With five go to witch or priestess. In the future updates there will be other options too.
Yeah, not every sprite is ready. So you won't always see your opponent.
You can have a guide in the update log (at the end of it), it'll tell you all you need to know for having them (but you'll have to finish the bandit's camp story to have them).
And for the characters, which ones are missing ?
I've been hyped about this game since I discovered it at its 0.14 update. And heck, it never cease to amaze me! Much love for the creator of this game as well as the graphic artist.
And I found while I played this several times since the 0.14 up to 0.15.2 patch is that Bernard's hunting event seems to only be triggered after finishing the quest about bringing 10 spectral syrup. I mean, is it just me or the hunting event seems to had gotten a bit hard to trigger now because I need to gather much ingredients for those 10 syrups. In patch 13.2 or less (I dunno), the hunting event can be triggered after finishing the Lost Friend quest and telling him about werewolves. I don't really know if that's intended but I don't really mind. Or maybe I'm just the only one experiencing it? IDK
IT'S STILL ONE OF THE BEST GAMES THAT I PLAYED! Thank you for this magnificent creation!
Yes. I changed it at some point. It was easier to do that, than checking if the sickness event isn't ongoing (I forget about it and you could actually meet Bernard in the hut when he was supposed to be sick).
I kinda screw it because I wanted the hunt to be available only after you cure Bernard. Not after the quest with surups. So I'll make another change in 0.17.
So, how do I trigger the Barrel x Logan scene ? I've trigger the Scene at Camp, but when I visit Sawmill at night, it's still the same closed sawmill without any kind of scenes.
Did you finish the bandit's camp story ? I think it's when that is over that the bandits go to town, then you should be able to see this (wonderful) scene
remember to give the bandits some money.
no idea what im supposed to be doing but I love the game already
Most important... Have fun :P
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kk1nVwdcqxsqkysRpLgMoRE0wKDOmMXYfxKpDsBlmas/edit?pli=1#gid=880947664
Check the guide. There are information about different characters, you can see what you unlocked and what not.
How do I trigger the Lusty Chaos Bad End for the tribe? I lack the lust points for the Acolytes. Hyao said in the comments that you can only get lust points for the Acolytes in events and quests from before. I've already beaten Rhousk (Although I have save files way before that, so I can replay), so are there are any more ways to add more lust points for the Acolytes? (I have 11 for the Warriors). Thanks!
It says that the lust of warriors and acolyte combined have to be 10, so if you have 11 for warriors, it should be okay, no ? And you told to the priestess to talk about the lake to the others ? It may happen after you've defeated Rhousk and bring him to her, but not sure, I can't beat Rhousk x)
oh! I didn't know it was a "combined" amount! So whatever amount it is, if both are added to make a 10, then it's all good? I have to replay back to the save file in the lake, because I chose to keep it a secret lol. Suuuuper thanks! Btw, great game Hyao! Just came back after a few months :>
Yeah, it should work with a combined amount at 10, at least that's how I understand it ^^
Yes, that is correct. The combined amount must be 10. But you also have to convince Othra to tell others about the lake. If she keeps it secret then other lizards are not using the lake which means they didn't deplete its energy.
You gotta talk to the sawmill guy about the pendant. Ask the tavernkeep about him. Also you need clothes to be able to talk to him.
Someone help with the lure for lizardmen please ?
And what help you need? Check the guide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kk1nVwdcqxsqkysRpLgMoRE0wKDOmMXYfxKpDsBlmas/edit?pli=1#gid=880947664 , there's a lot of answers there.
Hello there!
It's been a while since my last comment here :P
The Love Potion Scene of Barrel was a surprise, I didn't expect that (And was a very good surprise xD) The other things in the update were revealed or predictible so, in general, was a good update
The other day I was thinking: In the map, the brown part it's supose to be water no? maybe a future "enemy" could be pirates or something related to the sea?
Thanks for everything Hyao!
Sorry, I need to say it or i will explote, BRING BACK TANK! (as a romance interest too) xD
You may get it after the release of the Northcrest part, as it's where he is now ^^
I'm glad you like the update.
I don't want to talk much about the future, I have some plans for things that can appear. But I want it to be a surprise too. But I can tell that Tank will be back. Like Arkenophas said, him and Scar are related to the Northcrest story, so I need to reach that area first.
hey so what's Marsh Breath ?
where do we get the alpha male fluids?
You don't for now
First off, great game, and I am highly enjoying it. I am on day 93 and still no mention of hunt from Bernard. I already mentioned werewolves about his lost friend and went to the cottage at night of friday between 800 and 000. still no prompt. please help.
Did you had a talk with him "Ask about the hunt"? That's the first thing you have to do, then you need to visit the abandoned hut on friday night between those hours
I've had this issue too. Talking about the hunt never came up, I mentioned the werewolves to him and he acknowledged it. Doesn't bring up the option to ask about the hunt. Does he need a certain level of affection with me before this happens?
Exactly what I was talking about. I did mention the werewolves and still has not given me the prompt to "ask about the hunt".
You mean 0.16?
Try finishing all quests for both Bernard and Logan. Logan might be holding you back with his hunt werewoofs quest.
Additionally, I think it was said somewhere that, once the conditions were right, Bernard has to MENTION the hunt in order for the Ask about hunt option to appear, and I think that only happens on certain days of the week.
Bernard is supposed to talk about the hunt right after you mention werewolves about his friend. My older saves where I romanced him are still there, but I've tried going about it the same way doesn't work. I've maxed out the lumberjacks quests and cured the shopkeeper, talking with him every day afterwards and the option still doesn't show. I think it's bugged and just doesn't appear.
maybe like in the swamp you could add an attached room in the house to make the options less clutered? it just feels like the screen is full already
A big part of that is pets. They take up a whopping three slots. Combine that with Korg (who currently has no use except for a single lewd scene that you cannot control), and that's half of the options right there.
Clearly, either moving the pets options to the pets screen or creating a single option to list them under is in order.
Naming animals isn't supposed to be there. I just didn't find a good way to put it into a screen, that's why it looks like that for now. I'll try to do something with it.
is there a way to acquire the alpha males fluids yet or will that be in the next update?
The alpha male fluids ? WHere did you see that we can collect it ?
I presume from the guide, and I presume it will be in 0.16.
Hiya, just downloaded the game and it seems pretty great so far! Just that I can't seem to get the audio to work, any ideas?
There's no audio yet, sorry
Oh okay, just wanted to make sure. Keep up the good work and thanks for your reply! :D
For some reason I can't find the rumours about the beasts. I spoke to Bernard and Harold, and nothing.
Talk with Bernard about his friend, pick "Mention Werewolves" option.
I can't seem to do that either, despite having run into the werewolf several times. Also, I accidentally went the Logan bottom route when I meant to go for the normal route and now I'm way too far into the game haha. Is there any way at all I can revert him without having to make a brand new save? Took ages to get everything the way I wanted it apart from him :P
take out 40 werewolves, that unlocks the option
why cant i submit the second part of the teacher quest i cant submit the 10 enhance lust potion to bernard hope there will be a fix to this problem
You can't submit the second part of that quest because it is about Lust Potion, not Enhanced Lust Potion.
where are the keys to open the inner shrine gate ? i have 2 but missing one
Third part is a reward after doing a quest for the witch
thx for the help and keep up the good work :)
How can you get this scene, "Orc (Flavor text when he chase the bandits away during night attack)"
You need to have the bandits low morale so they start attacking you in places again then when you rest at night there's a chance for them to attack and he fights them off.
propably when bad attitude and morale in bandit camp and having orc in house and sleeping there, it is quite rare
how can i tame a wererat, i already use the rodents lure, it says i could tame it but how? what should i do next . ps i already got the prison
You need to use lure during the fight (Preferably few of them). Enemy get tamable status. Then you need to finish the fight in any way (Except losing or escaping). If you have a free spot in the prison (3 max for now) then the creature is captured (100% chances is after using 5 lures)
how can i use or make rodents lure?
You should be able to learn the recipe at house
Or just use the guide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kk1nVwdcqxsqkysRpLgMoRE0wKDOmMXYfxKpDsBlmas/edit?pli=1#gid=880947664
When I gave Lust potion to Rhot, it was 7 in total.
Can't raise Lust anymore?
I think you need to seduce the other lizard people
Is that possible during the battle? Or does it happen during a conversation?
there aren't many conversations where you could do anything lustful except the training and acolyte quest line and training with rhot so I think so.
Thank you. I will try again from the beginning.
Warriors Lust and Acolyte Lust is only gained from event and quests. There's an acolyte around ruins that you can give lust potion, you can give Lust potion to Rhot when you are talking with him. You can offer relief to warriors and it also gives some points. A lot of points can be gain when doing Lost Acolyte quest and picking the lusty options.
Hi, I found the game yesterday and I love it, great work! I have a question about the acolytes quest, I read previous posts and found answer that the last one is on Ruins, but I don't know how to find her, the only options I have when entering the ruins is enter the temple and talk to the healer. Could someone give me a hint what should I do?
First of all, there is a guide that have a lot of answers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kk1nVwdcqxsqkysRpLgMoRE0wKDOmMXYfxKpDsBlmas/edit?pli=1#gid=880947664
And about your issue. Go back during the evening. During the day the acolytes are outside and warriors are hunting. While during the evening warriors are outside, you can then check what they are doing and there you will have the option to help the third acolyte.
Thank You! I didn't talk to the Priestess so the option to check on guards didn't appear.
found a bug - when you talk with innkeeper and told him what you really did at the camp, there is a scene where he talks about Barrel - Love potion and rat option even when that didnt happen
is there anymore to the beast story yet or will it continue in the next update? also where do we find the new Aconitum material?
No, there is nothing more. Only a setup for a next update. Aconitum can be found in the forest path area.
I have tried looking in the forest path area but just keep finding the grape and white berries. Is there a certain time that I should look?
It's a chance to find it. It should be available if you read about werewolves in the house
I haven't read anything about the werewolves yet. Does this happen after you get all the information about the beast?
Yes
So it's been a while since I downloaded an update and played. Can anyone tell me how to activate the fight with Roushk? Also where to find a rat lure?
1. Meet the lizard tribe and do the lost acolytes quest to gain access to Forbbiden temple and Inner Shrine. Open the mysterious gate in Inner Shrine by finding all three pieces of a lizard statue. Go to underground Forbidden Temple and Wait for Roughsk
2. Find the recipe by studying at home.
How can i find the scene between Logan and Blake?
In the mine at night. Only if your Logan is a power bottom.
yeah im pretty sure my logan is a power bottom and im in the mine at night and cant seem to get this to work all i get is the blacksmith is in the cave mining
The power bottom logan is corrupted logan you sent to the camp after the attack btw
i mean i had the scene where he went to fight them and got "gutted" but if theres an attack after that i have to trigger then i have no idea
There's a chance to it to happen when you are entering the mine
I can't seem to get the bad ending which would take Roushk to prison. I keep getting the good ending despite have chosen to "tell the others about the lake". How do we take him back home?
If you want the bad ending you have to tease and fuck the warriors some times before defeating Rhousk.
As Pablo said, thecombined lust of acolyte and warriors have to be at 10
Can someone remind how to build the prison please ?
u need about 10 planks and 15 diabosite
There is still a bug that makes certain things to not appear on the improvement list. Try save/load and see if things appears them.
Have 100 like and 1 heart with arion character is fem bottom how to trigger bed ending?
It's a sanity thing he need to lower your sanity to 0.
I have my Sanity at 5, as low as it can go, playing a female character and I'm not seeing any option or change. Is there something else I'm missing here?
I couldn't tell if it was me but I think that's the lowest it can go for him it may not be an "ending" but some extra text because on my make character I got some excess text afterwords where my character said he wanted more but then passed out and that was it
Who is Barell?
Barrel is the fat bandit you can meet in the bar after the bandit's camp story
I can't seem to get Barrel to appear in the bar anymore. He appeared for a while after the bandit camp story, but now he stopped coming around. Is it because I donated supplies to the camp?
i changed to top, maybe he will show after bottoming more
If morale in bandit's camp is lower than 25 then bandits are not appearing in town and they start attacking on the track again.
It's at 100 for me atm. The only time bandits appear on the road is to get a happy ending from my character.
How do I get Barnard to visit?
You can read the guide, here's the updated link :
https://hyao.itch.io/lustful-desires/devlog/122069/update-0152
You can see that in the bernard section (I love how Hyao wrote in red that there was other sections below x) )
why can't I bring Roushk back to my house :(
are you in the public version? That one you can't captur Rhousk yet it's only in patreon build right now.
Thanks
you can now it was added in the update
Thanks
You can with the version released 5 minutes ago
Thanks
Is the update today or tomorrow?
Tomorrow, Hyao mentioned on Discord that it would be out on Friday.
There's a Discord ? :|
Yes, it is included in the introduction of the game on this very page.
Ooooooh..... oooooooh....... Where are my glasses ????
Thank you for the information :)
Can somebody give me link to the site where Renpu's discussion of the game?
What do you have in mind for prisoners' Like and Dominance stats? How are they meant to function?
I was wondering about this too. I don't really want to keep prisoners but I still wouldn't mind knowing how it works. I was kind of hopeing it would become something like. You can build a prison and keep 3 or 4 prisoners and get ingredients based on there drops you normally find when you beat them in battle. Or you can build a room have one of them live with you and they help gather ingredients near the house while your away. That way one gives you an unlimited supply of multiple ingredients and the other nicer option gives you a few random ingredients a day.
I am just trying to find out how to get prisoners
after you build a prison you can start to learn things that can help catch some things. for example you can learn to catch reptiles from the witch in the swamp she will sell you what you need but you can later learn in your self. they want you to use more then one to have a better chance but I saves mid battle and keeps reloading until I catch them. the reptile one also works on rapters so you can get an awesome mount the only thing I cant figure out is how to put the mounts back in your stable to let them rest. they seem to be stuck following me around.
ok thanks
The mount part is simple, you just switch between any mount you have if that's what you mean
you can save the boy with a broken leg T_T
What boy?
I’m wondering how can i get into the cave，and I’m totally stuck.It don’t know where to fine a source of light，can anyone tell me plzzzz？：）
Did you finish the bandit camp's story ?
Thanks, after ur hint I unlock the cave finally. Btw,how can I make the Love potion and aphrodisiac? It’s hard to understand the pic which the Witch shows, and especially it is some kind of a holy leaf in the third formula?
Well, you should usually have some leafs that can be considered holy. It's just a pun really. If you really want to find out, you can go to the guide and check all recipes there.
Yeah, the "holy" leaf, you should already have some, just look at the names you see ^^ And in the case of, for the heart of blue and green monsters, there's two kind of jellys (I didn't notice that at first x) )
how can i cure the shop keeper? im stuck pls
You'll need to do a Spectral Syrup, you have the recipe in your potion list ^^
The one you will be missing is the heat one after checking the note about it from the Study option in your home, you can either have a look at the Recipe guide this game has for it or you can ask the white lizardess inside the inner temples in the Ruins about it and she teach it to you for free after doing the quest for finding the 3 missing lizardess.
thanks a lot!
No problem, and feel free to ask anyone on here about anything you have trouble on, even the owner of the game himself if you want to, since he was making the game and should know how to do certain things or trigger certain scenes.
is there a set time and date for the next update? great game btw
Hyao usually updates on the last day of the month.
Well, Hyao said he usually tries to update to public version a month after the Patreon version is updated. He also said that the update will come at the end of the month, so that could be tomorrow to the 31st (obviously)