Sorry for asking this, but is there any faster way of finding Black Berries other than the Dog finding them at random each time he search, which use up half of his Energy each time and can only be used 2 times before he need to be fed meat, which recover the same amount of energy that Search used up from him?
Thanks, at least i know where i can get them without having the dog find them at random from search, also, each time you collect a planted berry, you get 10 of them, so if keep at least one colour of the type of berries you need planted in your garden, you won't have to run out of them.
That is what i am doing, also, maybe you might reveal how many times you need to manually craft the recipes before it is added to the mastered list for each of them?
Depends on the recipe. There are four difficulties. Basic ones gain 35 exp each time you make it. Easy gain 15, Medium gain 10 and Hard gain 5. When you reach 100 exp points with the recipe it is mastered.
maybe the dark swamp could drop them! The swap drops green and blue berries so maybe since the dark swamp prolly has a lot less light the berries could become black berries!
Only in 0.9 when there is a fight against him and Tank. Ass experience you gaining in every scene where the character have anal sex (Or in most of them).
He's only shirtless following the bandit attack on Bareshade. Pretty sure Hyao is going to expand his romance options in the future, but for now, there isn't much.
You can't find it currently (well, possibly in the new .9 version, haven't played it yet). But you can buy it from the merchant you can meet at random after taking a break on the Track, or from the Witch in the Swamp during the day.
Oh, so that is how i can find the Carvavan Guards as well? I forgot about the one from the witch, i was trying night time previously, i will go and get them when i play this game again to master the recipes.
Yea and after a bit if your bitch fame is high enough you can get a scene with the owner of the caravan and the cocky guard. Be wanted cocky guard does... Special things after a bit...
Ok, i not really a fan of human X human 18+ stuffs, but i will have to deal with it for now.
tend to going through the scenes with any human NPCS as quickly as possible, but what is the message i have to look out for for that scene that might happen if i keep on doing it?
It's not that easy. In the scene artwork he is just there, to battle I need to sprites. One for normal version and the alternative where he is horny. Taking the picture from the scene wouldn't look good.
Seem like the next update he is doing might have some new locations and stuff that might be added in this game, so this might take a while before it comes out on here.
If you want to be sub on the game, you can submit to the wolves in the forest when you see them, you will eventually have your position change to that if done enough times, and for the next update, i don't know when he will put it up, it is usually around day 25 every month, but can finish earlier or later than that.
No problem, some of the recipes might be for the Patreon version, which the Itch.io version will eventually get to some day along the way, so if certain ones does not work when trying them, that will be why.
You need to finish event in the forest. There's a girl with wolves. You don't have to participate, just skip it if you want. At the end you will find a pendant.
I did watch that. It was like four or five scenes with that girl. But I don't have the pendant. I tried searching the forest many times after that but I didn't get a new scene. Is it random and I just got unlucky or could that be a bug? I'll keep trying.
Where can I find the materials for upgrading the house? I'm searching for it some quite time now and can't still find it. Or is it not implemented yet as of now?
Sorry for asking this weird question, but is there any chance you'll ever add some foot stuff? Like footjobs for instance. If that isn't already in the game and I missed it.
Could you add a Linux Version, too, maybe? - I just switched to it and LUV the OS and its stability, reliability with the right configuration. And it looks like Mac, but runs on almost every PC. *swoon*
I'm not sure if the windows version works with WINE ("Wine Is No Emulator") Compatibility Layer there, but I'll certainly try. A native built like for MacOS would be more awesome though - since they both should use Vulkan API anyway, or don't they? *curious cat hopes to not getting killed* ;-P
Wow, I just saw, you published a Linux Version and it's much easier to get the Game to run with this one. I used to just use the Windows one with WINE, but just clicking the "LustfulDesires.sh" file and choosing to "Run" it on Linux does the same trick, too. 'Love it and it's stable, too.
Just didn't see the .sh - File earlier since I just switched to Linux and wasn't used to these Files yet. Learning Curve is pretty steep, but worth it and not hard at all. Just a lotta new stuff to take in on Linux, which was the same on any other Platform/OS at the start.
Renpy is kinda awesome for offering that Linux Version in connection with the Windows one, I gotta admit. Haven't seen the Unity-Games published with Linux Versions, even though they should be almost as easily addable.
You mentioned something about Linux version and it's not that complicated to make a build for it as well. The only problem was that I didn't have any chance to actually test it. So thanks for confirming it is actually working!
I'm not sure what I'm going to do with the project in the final stage (It's still probably a long time before I reach the ending), for now there is only a Patreon page which have a version one month ahead.
Cool, 'glad to give Feedback on it then - maybe it even inspires some peeps to try Linux in the process. ;-)
I've got much less problems with it than I had on Windows with an older HP Pavilion AMD Notebook with older APU, that can only use Windows Drivers from 2015 (with all their bugs and limitations), whereas on Linux, AMD OpenSource/MESA Drivers are still kept up-to-date and are working better than their outdated proprietary ones.
With NVIDIA it's the other way around, it seems though. But that's because of the whole Coding Policy - which AMD decided to put out there on the OpenSource Nexus luckily a few years ago.
Anyway, I'll be happy to give Feedback on the Linux Versions and I'll check out your Patreon, too. - Even though, I might only be able to afford the lowest Tier there for now (health and resulting financial situation aren't the best these days), but I do what I can to support creative spirits the way(s) I can, so: keep up the awesome work (including the artists, who support you) and looking forward to see where and how it's going.
'Love the added complexity in story and gameplay with the newer version *sparkly eyes*
You can check all the recipes here: LD - Recipes , can you check if you are using the right ingredients in the right order? Also what version are you playing (You can see that in the main menu in the bottom right corner).
You can consistently lower your bitch fame if you've already been servicing the caravan guard on the Tracks. If you take a break at the tracks and his wagon comes up, refuse to service him and your bitch fame will decrease by 1. This is repeatable
First I need to finish all the mechanics I want and prepare proper GUI. Then I can think about trying to make it on mobile. I have that in mind, but I can't promise anything at this point.
C:/user/Appdata/Roaming/RenPy on PC at least. I wasn't messing with anything involved save/load option so saves should be compatible with other versions.
Unfortunately every time the new update is up you have to download the file again. The best way is NOT to replace the old game folder with the new one. Get rid of the old one and then unpack the new one. It should work, Ren'Py keeps saves in different folder then the game itself.
in the next update are you planning to add a logan scene or something else like the lizardmen art or rhot's maybe even othra's! that would rock or maybe we could see something new added like a bath scene with logan too!
I'm getting new art every month. The amount depends on how much time Zoroj have. It's usually two/three characters. In 0.8 lizardman warrior will get an artwork, also Scar and Tank. There will be also picture representing the scene from the bandit's camp where two of them were masturbating.
About the romance. I'm focusing on Bernard for now, but Logan will also have more options.
I love the game! I think is the best adult game i have played and can´t wait for the updates. Gonna support in Patreon when i get some money. Btw, will more hot CGs beadded?
Seem to have another idea that Hyao might try to put in at any time if he wants to, maybe there can be a training place where you can raise stats for combats or anything that give a stat check? It could require gold to get 1 point for each of them, doing quests to get it for free, or maybe you be submissive to the characters in there and get one for free? It can have a cool down between each use of it if he wants to.
There was training with lizardman, but it was limited to few times mostly because it was improving the stats of a player. I had to limit it so it wouldn't be an easy way to farm points. Maybe I'll do some training place if I find a nice way to balance it (Not that other things are balanced xD)
That is fine, maybe you can have a cap each of them can go to for each boss fights? and the new cap go up after each story boss fights you beaten? And that place can be unlocked before the Fat Bandits boss fight, AKA the first boss battle in story mode.
You have to finish the "Lost Friend" quest for him. There's a few things to find in abandoned hut. When you will clear the area you will be able to talk with Bernard about the hunting.
I have a question. I currently have the love potion item, and I want to give it to Bernard, but whenever I talk to him, I don't get the option to use it. I'm playing as a female character, does that have something to do with that? Also, how do you get Black Berries? Whenever I try to buy some from the witch, she never has any.
Unfortunately Love Potion is only for male characters for now. I'll try to add the option for female character in the next build. The same goes for Black Berries, I forgot to put them in the shop in recent version ^^' Sorry for the trouble.
You have to start doing other things to get him to like you, now. Usually after that many you'll have the option to join him on Friday evening's for hunting in the woods at his friend's cabin. I think that adds 2 each time. After you get like 20 (I think) you get a heart symbol, and he'll invite you to join him in the Hot Springs on Saturdays and/or Sundays after work.
Helping him only works for a certain amount of time.
You can gain some points by doing the quest "Lost friend", also if you didn't took the payment for medicine when you cure him from his sickness it also makes him like you more. You can meet with him in the bar if he likes you enough, that's a start of the romance route.
Like red1979 said, at some point you can talk about hunting evening. If you make everything right there then you are going to get a heart and that unlocks the Hot Spring date.
I've done the hunting date about 3 times now. Relationship with Bernard is 43 and a heart is shown. However, the option of the hot spring does not pop up when I want to talk to Bernard... Any reason why?
I am a little bit deceived. Nothing happens with Bernard even if he likes me at 37 and I have done a lot of tasks for him, including 3 hunting nights, leaving the bed for him. No heart shown either. What did I miss ?
make sure you've exhausted all of the talk options too, there may also be other requirements (make sure you exhaust all talk options for all characters, esp the bartender for hints)
[edit] even talk options that don't have the question mark next to them can change/result in affection increases after revisiting them, so be sure to do so after every major event (especially the "ask if you can help" option for Bernard, the outcome of which can change depending on your character's STR)
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Sorry for asking this, but is there any faster way of finding Black Berries other than the Dog finding them at random each time he search, which use up half of his Energy each time and can only be used 2 times before he need to be fed meat, which recover the same amount of energy that Search used up from him?
from the Witch during the day.
Ok, i will go and have a look.
Thanks, at least i know where i can get them without having the dog find them at random from search, also, each time you collect a planted berry, you get 10 of them, so if keep at least one colour of the type of berries you need planted in your garden, you won't have to run out of them.
Yup, that's the only way to get black berries for now. They can't be found anywhere. So buy some and then plant them.
That is what i am doing, also, maybe you might reveal how many times you need to manually craft the recipes before it is added to the mastered list for each of them?
Depends on the recipe. There are four difficulties. Basic ones gain 35 exp each time you make it. Easy gain 15, Medium gain 10 and Hard gain 5. When you reach 100 exp points with the recipe it is mastered.
maybe the dark swamp could drop them! The swap drops green and blue berries so maybe since the dark swamp prolly has a lot less light the berries could become black berries!
There are options to make scar fuck me? i am bottom.
only way to seduce have to throw things?
and how to get ass character? thx~
Only in 0.9 when there is a fight against him and Tank. Ass experience you gaining in every scene where the character have anal sex (Or in most of them).
I mean except for the two options of libido to the highest And halfway submit Have him for a short time,Do I have other choices for him?
(in short i wish he can→me) σ ﾟ∀ ﾟ)
Ah, then no. For now it's only oral sex with him.
how do i get shirtless logan?
He's only shirtless following the bandit attack on Bareshade.
Pretty sure Hyao is going to expand his romance options in the future, but for now, there isn't much.
I wish he's keep it off permanently. Mine has his shirt back on, now that he's back in town.
I never take off the lizards vest. Random encounters are evil.... I'm not full health and just wanna heal up.but it's also fun
how do i get logan's affection up? i already did all the quests he requested and i really want to romance him...
There's not much in his romance route yet, I'll be working on it some more in the future.
Do you have another method to support than Patreon?
It's always denied my payment every month :(
I'm afraid not. I'm new to those thing. Patreon was an obvious choice, I don't really know any other methods.
Since this item is a pain to get due to being the rarest one to find, Where can Drake Roots be found/gotten?
You can't find it currently (well, possibly in the new .9 version, haven't played it yet). But you can buy it from the merchant you can meet at random after taking a break on the Track, or from the Witch in the Swamp during the day.
Oh, so that is how i can find the Carvavan Guards as well? I forgot about the one from the witch, i was trying night time previously, i will go and get them when i play this game again to master the recipes.
Yea and after a bit if your bitch fame is high enough you can get a scene with the owner of the caravan and the cocky guard. Be wanted cocky guard does... Special things after a bit...
Ok, i not really a fan of human X human 18+ stuffs, but i will have to deal with it for now.
tend to going through the scenes with any human NPCS as quickly as possible, but what is the message i have to look out for for that scene that might happen if i keep on doing it?
It's something you have to see multiple times he says during the text scene with the caravan owner
"I bet they'd even give it to a horse!"
It can be only bought. From merchant on the track or from the witch during the day.
I have forgot about the witch having 2 different item sets for different time of day.
Will you add an sprite for Hayden?
Also, love the game, keep up the good work :)
Oh, yes. He will have a sprite. Not in 0.9, but most probably in 0.10.
How can you get the scene where your bottom with Hayden in the Hot Spring? And how can you get the scene with the Drunkard in Hot Spring?
That scene occurs only during the night, you also need to have at least 15 liking points.
Drunkard scene have a chance to happen when you are taking a public bath.
But for each you have to Be the opposite. For Hayden you gotta be bottom while with drunkard you gotta be top
how do i confront tank or scar ? :O
0.8 only have few scenes with them. In 0.9 there is a way to fight them.
This game just keeps getting better and better!
Ahem I must say. The fat bandit was a great add-on.
Keep doing God's work Hyao, please.
He will have his sprite too, at some point.
I'm glad you like the game, it means a lot to hear it from people. I just hope I stop making all those bugs ^^'
with the masturbation scene doesn't he have a sprite? It just needs to be added in fully.
It's not that easy. In the scene artwork he is just there, to battle I need to sprites. One for normal version and the alternative where he is horny. Taking the picture from the scene wouldn't look good.
I am a idiot I knew that but commented this
Sorry
Seem like the next update he is doing might have some new locations and stuff that might be added in this game, so this might take a while before it comes out on here.
er how do you make a rainbow pupil?
In this order: White Berry, Red Berry, Yellow Berry, Green Berry, Blue Berry.
I think if you study your book again it will tell you.
Ohhh, i can't wait until i play the next update.
When we can play it ? )=
And how to be bottom ? :D
If you want to be sub on the game, you can submit to the wolves in the forest when you see them, you will eventually have your position change to that if done enough times, and for the next update, i don't know when he will put it up, it is usually around day 25 every month, but can finish earlier or later than that.
Thank u, i appreaciate your help <3
No problem.
Do you make android version
Not right now, maybe in the future
can I lift Bernard up completely? strength is 20, but can't lift him up.
Not completely, it's just a small funny situation. Maybe I'll add something similar later.
I do not understand very well the witch's tips to make the two potions, how to get the recipes in other ways, I need help
Feel free to have a look at this link if you want to https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kk1nVwdcqxsqkysRpLgMoRE0wKDOmMXYfxKpDsBl...
It should show what the ones are if you have trouble with the clue the witch gives for those recipes.
OMG, thanks!!! S2
No problem, some of the recipes might be for the Patreon version, which the Itch.io version will eventually get to some day along the way, so if certain ones does not work when trying them, that will be why.
Thanks for sending the link! I have tons of work with finishing updates, so I'm not always up to answer everything right away.
No problem.
Does the game have sounds or something? have options but no sounds!?
No sounds for now
repeat the quest for now.
anything new with Bernard this next update?
If you ask about 0.8, then yes. There will be a new date with Bernard.
How do I unlock the sawmill? I never got a pendant.
You need to finish event in the forest. There's a girl with wolves. You don't have to participate, just skip it if you want. At the end you will find a pendant.
I did watch that. It was like four or five scenes with that girl. But I don't have the pendant. I tried searching the forest many times after that but I didn't get a new scene. Is it random and I just got unlucky or could that be a bug? I'll keep trying.
I'm so dumb. I already had the pendant. Sorry.
You got me scared for a second, because it was supposed to drop at the end of that event :D I'm glad it works.
Where can I find the materials for upgrading the house? I'm searching for it some quite time now and can't still find it. Or is it not implemented yet as of now?
You can buy planks at Logan's place (Sawmill); fertilizer at the Shop;
You can make Aphrodisiac by yourself
Thanks for helping me with a bunch of questions :D Are you sure you don't know more about this game than me? :P
Aww I'm glad I can help. I just loved to explore. = 3 =
Thanks!
how do you unlock the fertilizer?
You couldn't before the update that happened 11 days ago now you but it from bernard.
any new scene with logan yet ? all i saw is him shirtless ...
Nope. Nothing new yet if it comes to him.
Is there a way to get other animals or just the one dog for now. I built the stable and dog house but i haven't noticed any new options
Only that one dog for now.
Sorry for asking this weird question, but is there any chance you'll ever add some foot stuff? Like footjobs for instance. If that isn't already in the game and I missed it.
Can't promise anything. I'm adding a lot of different stuff, so probably sooner or later there will be a scene like that.
Could you add a Linux Version, too, maybe? - I just switched to it and LUV the OS and its stability, reliability with the right configuration. And it looks like Mac, but runs on almost every PC. *swoon*
I'm not sure if the windows version works with WINE ("Wine Is No Emulator") Compatibility Layer there, but I'll certainly try. A native built like for MacOS would be more awesome though - since they both should use Vulkan API anyway, or don't they? *curious cat hopes to not getting killed* ;-P
If it comes to builds Ren'py have one option for Windows and Linux, so I thought that version actually works for both.
Wow, I just saw, you published a Linux Version and it's much easier to get the Game to run with this one. I used to just use the Windows one with WINE, but just clicking the "LustfulDesires.sh" file and choosing to "Run" it on Linux does the same trick, too. 'Love it and it's stable, too.
Just didn't see the .sh - File earlier since I just switched to Linux and wasn't used to these Files yet. Learning Curve is pretty steep, but worth it and not hard at all. Just a lotta new stuff to take in on Linux, which was the same on any other Platform/OS at the start.
Renpy is kinda awesome for offering that Linux Version in connection with the Windows one, I gotta admit. Haven't seen the Unity-Games published with Linux Versions, even though they should be almost as easily addable.
You mentioned something about Linux version and it's not that complicated to make a build for it as well. The only problem was that I didn't have any chance to actually test it. So thanks for confirming it is actually working!
I'm not sure what I'm going to do with the project in the final stage (It's still probably a long time before I reach the ending), for now there is only a Patreon page which have a version one month ahead.
Cool, 'glad to give Feedback on it then - maybe it even inspires some peeps to try Linux in the process. ;-)
I've got much less problems with it than I had on Windows with an older HP Pavilion AMD Notebook with older APU, that can only use Windows Drivers from 2015 (with all their bugs and limitations), whereas on Linux, AMD OpenSource/MESA Drivers are still kept up-to-date and are working better than their outdated proprietary ones.
With NVIDIA it's the other way around, it seems though. But that's because of the whole Coding Policy - which AMD decided to put out there on the OpenSource Nexus luckily a few years ago.
Anyway, I'll be happy to give Feedback on the Linux Versions and I'll check out your Patreon, too. - Even though, I might only be able to afford the lowest Tier there for now (health and resulting financial situation aren't the best these days), but I do what I can to support creative spirits the way(s) I can, so: keep up the awesome work (including the artists, who support you) and looking forward to see where and how it's going.
'Love the added complexity in story and gameplay with the newer version *sparkly eyes*
You can check all the recipes here: LD - Recipes , can you check if you are using the right ingredients in the right order? Also what version are you playing (You can see that in the main menu in the bottom right corner).
How do i gain more Hero point? i got so much b*tch points now, i wanna switch lol
To be honest, there's not many things you can do to actually improve your hero points. I need to work some more on that part of the game ^^'
The highest hero points you can get in Bareshade is 11 I think. But you can lower your b**ch fame instead.
You can consistently lower your bitch fame if you've already been servicing the caravan guard on the Tracks. If you take a break at the tracks and his wagon comes up, refuse to service him and your bitch fame will decrease by 1. This is repeatable
That is really useful, thank you!
Just wondering if this will be coming to mobile? I already have it on my windows and wanna take it on the go with me.
First I need to finish all the mechanics I want and prepare proper GUI. Then I can think about trying to make it on mobile. I have that in mind, but I can't promise anything at this point.
omg if you do make it for mobile my life will be complete <3 love you!
Updates trouble : it is impossible to find the saves when you start the version 0.8.2 uploaded on Patreon. Where are the saves kept ?
C:/user/Appdata/Roaming/RenPy on PC at least. I wasn't messing with anything involved save/load option so saves should be compatible with other versions.
Thanks a lot. All fine now and I love this game more and more !
Stupid question, how do we download the updates without messing up our saves like for the new character art you'll release later this month
Unfortunately every time the new update is up you have to download the file again. The best way is NOT to replace the old game folder with the new one. Get rid of the old one and then unpack the new one. It should work, Ren'Py keeps saves in different folder then the game itself.
in the next update are you planning to add a logan scene or something else like the lizardmen art or rhot's maybe even othra's! that would rock or maybe we could see something new added like a bath scene with logan too!
I'm getting new art every month. The amount depends on how much time Zoroj have. It's usually two/three characters. In 0.8 lizardman warrior will get an artwork, also Scar and Tank. There will be also picture representing the scene from the bandit's camp where two of them were masturbating.
About the romance. I'm focusing on Bernard for now, but Logan will also have more options.
If you get a room at the tavern after midnight, you lose a whole day. Can the code go to the next 6 AM instead of 6 AM the following day?
I'll look into that, it shouldn't work this way
How does one update the game? Do I have to update it manually like some programs or does it do it on its own like most others?
I think when an updated version comes out , there will be the link to the updated version and you can download it there.
Yes. You need to download the new version every time. Just don't replace the old folder because that can lead to some issues.
Will my progress get saved into the next update?
It should work with the next update. If there will be an update that will need restarting then I will mention it in the notes.
Ok thank you
I love the game! I think is the best adult game i have played and can´t wait for the updates. Gonna support in Patreon when i get some money. Btw, will more hot CGs beadded?
Right now there is new art every month. I exploit Zoroj as much as I can :D Thanks for the nice words, I'm really happy to hear that! ^^
Seem to have another idea that Hyao might try to put in at any time if he wants to, maybe there can be a training place where you can raise stats for combats or anything that give a stat check? It could require gold to get 1 point for each of them, doing quests to get it for free, or maybe you be submissive to the characters in there and get one for free? It can have a cool down between each use of it if he wants to.
There was training with lizardman, but it was limited to few times mostly because it was improving the stats of a player. I had to limit it so it wouldn't be an easy way to farm points. Maybe I'll do some training place if I find a nice way to balance it (Not that other things are balanced xD)
That is fine, maybe you can have a cap each of them can go to for each boss fights? and the new cap go up after each story boss fights you beaten? And that place can be unlocked before the Fat Bandits boss fight, AKA the first boss battle in story mode.
How i make the love potion ? I think i putting the ingredients in wrong slot..
You can check most of the recipes here: Recipes
how do i get the 1st date hunting with bernard
You have to finish the "Lost Friend" quest for him. There's a few things to find in abandoned hut. When you will clear the area you will be able to talk with Bernard about the hunting.
thank you :)
I have a question. I currently have the love potion item, and I want to give it to Bernard, but whenever I talk to him, I don't get the option to use it. I'm playing as a female character, does that have something to do with that? Also, how do you get Black Berries? Whenever I try to buy some from the witch, she never has any.
Unfortunately Love Potion is only for male characters for now. I'll try to add the option for female character in the next build. The same goes for Black Berries, I forgot to put them in the shop in recent version ^^' Sorry for the trouble.
I got (10) ''likes'' with shopkeeper, now when i help him dont up anymore, i missed something ?
You have to start doing other things to get him to like you, now. Usually after that many you'll have the option to join him on Friday evening's for hunting in the woods at his friend's cabin. I think that adds 2 each time. After you get like 20 (I think) you get a heart symbol, and he'll invite you to join him in the Hot Springs on Saturdays and/or Sundays after work.
Helping him only works for a certain amount of time.
You can gain some points by doing the quest "Lost friend", also if you didn't took the payment for medicine when you cure him from his sickness it also makes him like you more. You can meet with him in the bar if he likes you enough, that's a start of the romance route.
Like red1979 said, at some point you can talk about hunting evening. If you make everything right there then you are going to get a heart and that unlocks the Hot Spring date.
Hey there!
Loving this game so far. :-)
I've done the hunting date about 3 times now. Relationship with Bernard is 43 and a heart is shown. However, the option of the hot spring does not pop up when I want to talk to Bernard... Any reason why?
What version are you playing? Hot Springs are available on 0.8 which is posted on Patreon. On Itchio it's only 0.7.
I’m playing 0.8 now, and it works. ;-)
Any way we can get a full view of Bernard? There’s no ‘+’ option as far as I can tell...
I am a little bit deceived. Nothing happens with Bernard even if he likes me at 37 and I have done a lot of tasks for him, including 3 hunting nights, leaving the bed for him. No heart shown either. What did I miss ?
make sure you've exhausted all of the talk options too, there may also be other requirements (make sure you exhaust all talk options for all characters, esp the bartender for hints)
[edit] even talk options that don't have the question mark next to them can change/result in affection increases after revisiting them, so be sure to do so after every major event (especially the "ask if you can help" option for Bernard, the outcome of which can change depending on your character's STR)
Don't leave a bed for him. If you want to gain a heart you have to sleep with him in one bed.