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What’s the word count on this right now? (Also for future reference, is there an easy way to check for it on other VNs?)

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If my script computed it correctly, this game has nearly 2 million words.

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Wow

Will there be a translation into Russian?

How do you trigger the trouble in den?

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Theory and Discussion time fellas - 


Skip if you have not played up to the current patch 






(1.) I think the Emerine Golems will assist in the killing of the zombie menace in Mythshore. I believe this is a possible route. I think we will befriend Father Golem, telling him about impending danger towards him because of his 'heart'. He will send you on quests or something, you gain his trust, then he helps by clearing out Mythshore because they cannot get spectral fever, and possibly occupying the town. Sending his sons to learn more about life, outside of protecting him, them getting more individuality. Emerine boyfriend when? Literally created to be your boyfriend by Father. Father might also control all the underground tunnels and even war with the rats because they carry spectral fever. Then a possible mass vaccination of ratkin to be cured. 

(2.) I do not think the zombies were created by Nameless or the Witch, I think that there is a third threat out there. It's possible that the Witch made the Shapeshifters who in turn created the spectral fever issue but after seeing the real Lionel and the underground crypt with those sigils, I am willing to bet that there is a third big bad. Probably of the necromancer or lich variety. I was actually thinking Ruben is somehow involved due to wanting to preserve and extend his life.

(3.)  I'm pretty sure the Witch created the Werewolves and will eventually turn them against the player, due to the nightmare MC had of being attacked by Logan as a werewolf. Meaning Bernard, Logan, Caleb, the Alpha and Beta will be your enemies. Logan did mention that he would like for you to experiment on him as patient 0 to find a true cure for Lycanthrope, I think the player will find a semi cure and 'recover' the werewolves in the forest giving them back their sentience like Caleb did and making a tribe of werewolf people in the forest. 

(4.) Hayden will leave Bareshade for the swamps. He will become a swamp king. I don't know if the Nameless created that swamp monster tree or the Witch, or if it has been there long before the curse of lust, but Hayden got attacked by it and survived. He will somehow play a part is dealing with the swamp tree. I think he will either good ending rule the swamp trees, or bad ending get absorbed by the swamp tree like those werewolves.

(5.) Hissh is Roushks or Grushks son. It would be more interesting if he was actually Roushks son, but either is a possibility. Hissh claims to be someone born from the blessing of Lust, and that it is a good thing because it births more lizards, makes lizards stronger, among other things. Yet this curse has only been around for half a year at best due to Orthra's dialogue which gives a narrow time frame of events. If Hissh was born he would have grown to adulthood in an rapid amount of time. Another thought that crossed my mind while writing this, in the curse of lust bad ending, the MC is turned into a lizard woman and lays eggs for the tribe. Perhaps he is someone transformed by the corrupted water into a Lizard man and was originally a human or some other race. 

(6.) I believe Sabal is not native to the island. Tao talks about the three races that live on the island. Ursadin, Hogsvine, and Alurines. You would think in all this conflict the fourth tribe would be involved in some way or at least known and spoken of. The reason I think this is because 'Jester' speaks of a lion. I think that the Lion tribe that Sabal originates is actually from the wasteland with the other Orcs, probably in the forest that is now closed off by the Stormclaw tribe. As Groth said Orcs are not the only race who live in the wastelands. We have Harpies, Ogres, Orcs and what else? Where could Jester have seen a lion? Not past the icy mountain, not in the jungle of a remote island, most likely in the wilderness or the plains of death. They have giant bears up there seen in the armor of some of the Orcs, why not Lions? 

(7.) The temples, one in the Lizard tribe, one in the ratkin junkyard, one in Lakeshard, a crypt under the ground near Bareshade, I am so curious to learn about more of the history. Tao will surely make discoveries. I personally think that the crypt has to do with the necromancer Lionel I mentioned before, but all these destroyed temples could be an apocalypses scenario, where there was a civilization but it was destroyed by something. Maybe a society dedicated to the Nameless which was destroyed or something? I don't know its pretty interesting. 

(8.) I think Bareshade will be destroyed. Perhaps Nameless and Witch working together or just the perfect storm of bad events. Right now Bareshade seems so amazing, but I think it will fall. Logan, Bernard, Caleb, werewolves, into the forest. Hayden taken by the swamp. Blake, Harold, Rose all move to northcrest because of the danger. The bandits will abandon their camp and take over Bareshade; (the bandits being outlaws in northcrest being unable to go there). Your home base in the forest is destroyed.  All the problems at once, the Lizards are invaded by their lustful counterparts, the werewolves are attacked by the swamp, the Orcs war among each other, Northcrest shapeshifting noble problem while Zombies and Murcads attack Northcrest. Okay maybe thats too much, but it would be crazy to see occur. I do think Bareshade will be attacked and vacant at some point though. Perhaps by a dragon. 

(9.) Rose will become an actual magic using witch. I don't have any evidence, I just think she will become capable of magic at some point. 

(10.) Tank is a creation of the Witch. It is possible that he is just some odd half breed, because when Orcs fuck human women Orcs are born not humans. So maybe she was splicing creatures to make a monster of some kind and Tank was her failure. 

(11.) The frozen mountain top with the Yeti was destroyed because it had a Gem that the Nameless and Witch want. 

I would like to hear some of the theories some of you might have cooked up. Please share with me! :D <3

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This is exhilarating, lol. Here are my current thoughts about this game:


1. There are trinkets, right? As far as I know, they are sought after by many—Nameless, Witch, Ruben, heck, even our master could be trying to get his hands on them, and possibly other people too. But... Why? I believe that those trinkets (which I think are orbs) could grant power or extend one's life, or maybe even both. For now, we don't know what Nameless and Mirage are trying to accomplish. But for Ruben, we know he's trying to extend his life. Think about it, Father's heart could be one of those orbs. He said that he wasn't born an emerine golem. If I remember correctly, he was on the verge of death, but then something saved him. It extended his life. What if collecting all of the trinkets could grant immortality? I think Mirage will try to kill Father for that. By the way, did you guys give Nameless both of the trinkets, or just one?

2. Our master could be lying to us. He said in his letter that he left to take care of an urgent matter. If he did do that, there's a chance that he's currently in the Stormclaw tribe, probably trying to help the orcs get out ( I thought he could be there cuz it's the last place we still haven't unlocked yet ) , or in other parts of Aigran. If not that... What if he's part of the Northcrest's Bentley family? Remember, we don't know his origin, not even his real name. Could he be Lord Salvador? The Bentley family are alchemists who excel at creating medicine. They're probably the ones who made Wraithfever in Mythshore, though I don't see any reason why they would do that. It could be an accident too. Anyways, we don't know for sure if our master is a good guy or a bad guy, though I think he cares for us, I just hope we don't get to kill him. 

3. The Bentley Family vanished. Could they be running from their responsibilities in Mythshore? Were they taken? If they were taken, it would either be Nameless or Witch who did that, as they're the only ones who can do it without leaving any trace. Or they probably left on their own will too. Nameless and Witch ask people to take their sides. They even did that to us. The question is always why? Why would they need alchemists? All I know is that in the world of Aigran, potions are more powerful than swords...


I'm sure I'm wrong in a lot of aspects in these theories as there are a lot of missing key details. But yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

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ay theory time, that's my favorite time! :D just sucks I'm blanking really hard on any of mine lmao. I'll edit if I can think of any but some of yours are really interesting and would incredibly neat to see in game! 

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I think our teacher is going to be a villain. It'd be anticlimactic if he was away all this time not actually doing something malicious. I'm also starting to think he's the creator of these monsters in Black Wolf event.

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I'd honestly be fine with our teacher being a villain but I uh kinda hope he's hot and we can seduce him. Also, now you're making me sus of Ruben. He's always in the right place at the right time and always involved in all the things happening in different quest lines regarding Northcrest. And the fact that we can't fuck with him is making me all the more sus. 

And I swear, I freaking forgot about the zombies lol. 

Another Theory I forgot I had was that the teacher created the Main Character. That we are a human created through alchemy. The Witch creates monsters and teacher knows about the werewolves, it is possible he knows of the witch and took a favor from her creating a son, aka the main character. The main character also calls his teacher Master often, despite having learned nothing from him at the start of the game. I'm thinking we were literally created to be a servant, but teacher got cold feet, or went to complete his favor. Think about it, no one knows where the main character came from, and only Gunnar talks about you appearing from nowhere and being an extremely capable person. Where are we from? We were made. 

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That theory also crossed my mind; however, to connect it with my other theory of the teacher being a part of the Bentley family, what if we are too? Remember, people don't know much about that family as they prefer to live in isolation. Only a few members are known to exist, as mentioned by the Quartermaster who also stated that they don't know if Lord Salvador has any children. What if we are one of his children? Did our teacher kidnap us? Were we abandoned by the family and then found by our teacher? Or did Lord Salvador entrust our teacher to take care of us in an attempt to save us, knowing that someone... 

or something would come to take the entire Bentley family?


Then after our teacher discovered that the family had vanished, he went to investigate what had happened to try and help our real father. For now, we actually don't know if he's still alive; he's probably been taken as well. Our MC, who's prolly the last of his bloodline, will be the one to save everyone...


I had so much fun writing this xD!

I have a BIG question, can you try to seduce Orgram? I mean when we are having a friendly battle or something like that, the desire or lust bar or whatever you say appears, and I get 500...does that mean I can? And how do I do it without getting hurt?

I don't think you can, it'll kinda ask you "Would you really wanna do that in front of his whole tribe?" 

not during the fight or any quest event thing right now. 

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I can't seem to trigger seeing Logan's confrontation with thr bandit in the tavern. Bandit camp morale is above 25. Are there any other requirements for this to trigger? 


Nvm, of course it triggers as soon as I make this post XD

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I need help I can't play it mobile for some reason😭 My phone won't let me download the game😭😭😭 

Is there something wrong with the Munbury trip with Dulrig? I have completed all the requirements but I can't seem to get the heart. I searched and found that there is an option to "ignore his hand" on the way to the cave, but that option didn't appear in my case. Is there a certain amount of likes I need to get from him before doing the trip?

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You also need to do the "Discount" talk, otherwise the heart can't be acquired. You need glafire stones for that one.

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I'm not sure if you got it by now but The hint for it in game is really sneaky.

Basically you need to do  everything on the ride to Munbury trip, protect him at least once, then have sex with him no more than 2 (TOO) times. I would've never gotten it myself without help from here lol. You also need to give him 5  'something' stones (I forgot what they were called) when asked. At least that's what I did.

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I actually still haven't got it (cries). I don't know why. I mean, I know I got everything right. I ate him out no more than 2 times, protected him from the 2 emerine golems at turn 11, then just walked around until he was done to give him 5 emerine crystals. After all of that, we'll just go home. The option to "ignore his hand" never appeared the whole trip. What's wrong??? Aozoranokumo said I need to do the discount talk too, and I've already done it. I need help.

Is your relationship with Northcrest defenders above 40 as well? That's also a requirement.

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That it! I got the option, I'll finish it to the end and edit if it works. 

Edit: it worked! Thanks. 

I thought I needed likes from Dulrig himself and I had no idea how to gain some

So I updated the game from version 0.64.1 to 0.66.1, and I don't know how to update my existing saves into new versions, basically, turning my 64.1 save with over 100 days, into a 66.1 save without having to transfer data, I'm on android btw, Google pixel 6

I figured it out, no need to reply anymore

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Well, I like the game and everything but...I have some problems that I'm already solving on my own. 

But I would like to ask a question, first... Is it true that I need to be non-Bottom to be able to have relations with Dulrig? or how can I have relations with him? Second... how is Logan submissive? I've seen comments about Logan being submissive with Blake, Orcs or even wolves...I think? or is it just an invention? To be honest, I don't see Logan being a submissive, it would seem too strange to me, plus it cost me a lot to get along with him and win only two hearts, and lastly...how do I get the third heart with Logan? 

I forgot to say, my English is not very good so I apologize in advance if you don't understand me.

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I'm not sure about your first question. I'm a bottom, and I think I have a pretty good relationship with Dulrig. Could you please be more specifc about the problem you're facing so I could help? Second, Top Logan is really aggressive, so I think you're referring to Bottom Logan. They're probably talking about Bottom Logan being submissive since he's become like a sex machine. You can get Bottom Logan if you encourage him to go to the bandits' camp, though if you do that, you will not be able to have a relationship with him anymore. For your third question, I assume you're trying to get the second heart since it is the hardest one to get and has a lot of requirements. I'll just post the pic. But in case you're really trying to get the third heart, it just says "stay at your hut until Logan decides to pay you a visit." It's only a random chance around 20:00 - 4:00.

I hope this helps. 

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Oh, I owe you an apology for not expressing myself well, I see that I was wrong about Dulrig, in reality I said something else but even so when I try to do this it won't let me, and second, the last mission to get Logan's third heart doesn't It works for me, although I already completed the second one and I have a good like with it, it hasn't worked out for me, sorry if I don't understand what I wrote, as I said my English is not my language but I'm trying


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Ah, I see what you meant now. Firstly, for Dulrig, yes, if it is a requirement to be a bottom to receive a heart from him, then it is necessary. I'll post the recipe for the bottom potion here, also be sure to have at least 5 green emerine in your invertory (it says it's a requirement). Secondly, to get Logan's third heart, I recommend that you save a file in your hut around 20:00, then take a nap repeatedly. If the time reaches 4:00 and he still hasn't shown up, load the saved file and repeat the process. Keep doing this until he appears—it's a random chance.

I hope this helps.

And don't worry about your English, just keep practicing and you'll get the hang of it. 

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Thank you very much for helping me, although one last question, sorry if it bothered... do I have to have a save point in my cabin that is near the forest or my house that is in Bareshade?

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You're welcome. :) 

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Logan will visit you in your forest hut.

what does the “prisoners” conversation with khalgor do exactly? Because I remember thinking that his personal slave would be korg, because of the requirements for the conversion, but it never unlocked any new areas or options for me.

HOW CAN I INVITE THE NC GRUADS TO THE FIRAT?????

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Firat?? If you meant the festival, as far as I know you just have to start the assembly event and then invite Everett to the official meeting. They'll be there every Sunday after that I think. Correct me if I'm wrong tho. 

I went to speak to Korg about the fair and a scene played out where I got a choice to tell Korg about an underground trail and Korg left to take it. I didn't think anything of it and now I've progressed quite a bit after that and I can't find him anywhere. 

Does Korg permanently leave? If so, I'm now locked out of the Expanding Bareshade quest since I can't talk to him about the fair even though the fair has ended

Ok, I'd like to say that I have a problem. Since a few updates there is some sort of a problem I encounter. Namely the Nameless quest. It is said it's necessary to progress other quests like Orc War and yet it seems to be... bugged? I am supposed to see a crow sent by the witch (I spoke in two different saves with only good one and on the other with "both") about a protection from mind control but now the nameless quest did not begin until I progressed Orc War quest. I understand that might mean to start the game again and I'm fine with that, but it's not the first time I'm stuck like this so I'd really be glad if anyone with more intel on this case could explain what should I do in this situation... I tried to sleep anywhere I could, but I think it only counts if it's in your hut. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide me

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I kinda don't get the problem... 

could you please elaborate more. 

To see the crow sent by the witch, you would need to repeatedly sleep until morning in your hut. 

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I did. For like 20 days in a row? How many times do I need to do that?

Ok, now I tried 50 days in a row and still nothing. It seems to simply not trigger. That's the problem, all the time there's only Korg doing stuff around after waking up, nothing else. 

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I think it's a bug, have you already done the lizard's treasure?

A bug that happening constantly another time in a row?

This is not the first time it happen. I had already a few playthroughts stopped at this moment. 

I've done lizard's treasure every time. And as far as I remember 'Nameless' quest was getting started around the time when you was supposed to ask witch about mindcontrol protection. Now I'm getting it AFTER doing the whole quest AND after furthering Northcrest Conspiracy and Orc War.

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Have you unlocked the Iron Blood Village? And did you had nightmares with Nameless? (if I remember correctly, you're supposed to have 2 nightmares about him)

 If you did and it still doesn't work, could you perhaps post a screenshot of your progress of the lizards treasure event and nameless

(also, I think it's a bug that occurs for almost everyone, I too, had it) 

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Replaying the game after initially playing it for nearly 50 hours, I only just discovered Xeroth is a character that exists. Damn. Who else is hiding out of my sight?

Also, I'm doing a virgin route right now, but I noticed some sexual events, even with anal or oral, don't change your virgin status. I guess these are events Hyao forgot to account for?

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Alright, I lost my virginity to Logan after 2 days of playing. Worth it.

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😆

How do I treat the griffin at the Munbury cave entrance

2 Strong Health Potion, 5 Anti Bleeding Ointment, 5 Meat

What the what?? Where is this gryphon? I searched for it but i couldnt find it... Could it be that i haven' progressed far enough in the game?

its at the entrance of the cave complex near the orc battlefield, it was released in the latest update

Thanks for the info! Im pretty sure you're reefering to this cave but i think i just have to finish some event or progressed through something to encounter the gryphon. 

Either way, thank you!!!

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I just lost my 2week worth of gameplay

anyone could send me a save file with completed mission with no black heart.

(And also didn't complete 0.65 and 0.66 missions)

Please

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I would if I could, I just dunno how. Still, I suggest you just restart the game; this way, you can fix your past mistakes and make better progress. That's what I did when I lost mine (╥﹏╥). I have no regrets though because I really love the game.

I do also hope that someone who knows how to share save files finds this.

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https://www.mediafire.com/file/jilbv7r3i3j6z03/LDsaves_0-62.zip/file

So, just curious do you guys think in the future if the MC becomes khalgor's pet would you be able to conquer other locations for the horde.

That's an interesting idea to think about. With the help of red orcs, we can conquer numerous parts of Aigran... I doubt it would happen tho. Only Hyao has the POWER, and we can trust only him.

Could be an interesting Red Path. The Green Path of this would probably be slowly convincing Khalgor to join forces with other orcs as allies.

Also this idea of red orcs conquering cities gave me an idea lol. Petition to bring Bottom Logan to the Red Orc's camp. 

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I would love to see bottom Logan as an orc slave too lol

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I kinda wanna be an orc slave with him as well lol. And given the competitive nature of the red orcs, I can imagine them pitting us against each other while we both pleasure the orcs. Like who's the best at blowjobs, or who could take x amount of cock, etc. 

It'd be like the contest with the Lizards where sometimes Bottom Logan would win or our character would. And then Khalgor and the tribe gets to fuck the winner while the loser watches. 

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I'd imagine that Bottom Logan always being sexually desperate to get pounded would create some cool scenes with the red orcs.

What strikes me is that when submitting to Khalgor he tells you to beg, if you choose to refrain from begging you start questioning yourself and your eventually forced to beg. I wonder after becoming Khalgor's pet would change events later on in the game because of MC being an orc slut and find yourself  with limited choices because of it. 

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Oooh, and you know since Bottom Logan is a Red Path. Do you think it would also make sense to have him sort of... betray us? Well not like betray us completely but more like align himself with the Red Orcs to be their tribe slut. It'd be like a game changer event like with the Northcrest stuff or with Korg leaving your home to join the other green orcs (I forgot the name of their tribe)

Obviously he'd be missing in Bareshade, possibly sacrificing his other bottom events with the other npcs. Or actually to save that, maybe he'd just go to the Red Orc tribe... during Friday and Saturdays or something, that way he's still somewhat in Bareshade. 

Honestly, I'm also thinking of something like this with the Bandit camp lol. Just send Bottom Logan there for a day or two haha.

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Hi guy how to use love poition on korg

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I am having this problem of missing some content cuz I had to do the "Too horny to sleep" and never managed to, and now there is a bunch of content on the barracks but I had to have done that before.... What is the hidden recquirement?! T_T

I need that for the "A different kind of headache" which is needed for "Unwelcome offer"! Can someone help me with it?

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I had to use a save editor to make Alden's "Delivery" quest available again. Then you give him lust potions at the end of it.

Daaamn. Well guess that will have to do it! Thanks!

How do you do Othra's bonding and get the second heart for Roushk?

for the Bonding event you need to complete the contest event once, have one heart with either Roushk or Othra and then visit her in the day. after that wait until it's at/after 10:00 or at 18:00 but not any higher.

Roushk's second heart is obtained through completing the bonding event.

镇长病多久能好

I tried doing the Logan corruption route, but couldn't manage to find any of the scenes with him. I checked the outdoor fun area a few nights after encouraging him and observing it, but found nothing.  Did I do something wrong, or am I missing something?

so you have to go to the bandit camp an try sneaking in, there a chance for the scene of seeing him getting raped by the thugs.
once blake learns of the stuff below the bar an mines it there a chance to see blake an logan fucking.
going to logans place at night gets scene with him an the fat thug.

Thanks!!

its not all of them just ones you can get early on

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I wish your relationship to enemies changed a lot more. Some like the wolves and ratkin do have unique scenes/dialogue, but a lot of creatures with opinions have virtually no change save for increased lust attack rates and I feel the sanity/gameovers could be used more aswell

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I died, I will lose several months of game, and all for doing several missions wrong, so I will resign myself and try to make a new game, but I will always remember all the recipes and events to choose and I will not choose for a long time 😭😭😭

does anyone know what  mc gc does

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I would like to know too, I thought we had a sprite or CG for our main character, so I tried revisiting different events to see if it enables it. However, that's not the case. Please inform me if anyone answers.

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There's only one CG with our MC as of right now I think. Near the very start of the game where you can give Gunnar a blowjob on the Tracks. 

But I also saw something on twitter from one of the artists of this game "StanGArt" I think? If I remember correctly, they've done some CG on this game. and there's possibly a top MC CG during your date with Bernard at Northcrest. I think? I wouldn't know though because my character isn't a top. That or that art was just fan art by them as well. Anyway, all I know is there's only one MC CG yet at the moment. 

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Got it, thank you for the info. Idk why, but I wasn't expecting that we'd look like a shadow 😅. I was just excited; I understand it tho. As players, it depends on us how we would like our MC to look. Welp, I still love it. And speaking of looks, I wonder when we'll be able to have a sprite for Paulo and John, especially Paulo, his description sounds pleasing lol. 

If we don't get our own sprites, I do hope that the outfits/armors/weapons in the Equipment tab get at least some worn/equipped sprite art over the blank mannequin for our character in the menu. It'd be nice to see how our outfits look at least. 

YESS!! and a variety of outfits would be nice too!

there's one scene i have seen with this option, if you choose the option "take a short break" on the tracks you have a chance of seeing a new gunnar CG

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does anyone knows if i completely locked myself out of the bareshade alliance?
i can't unlock everett's relationship page, i think i might have confronted him about booner already but chose to ignore it i guess? something i've likely done a long time ago
and felliar is dead on this save as well

I think so because, in order to begin the assembly, you would need to invite Everett, and inviting him would require you 20+ likes from him, or so I think. Though I'm not certain if there's a chance to see them again at night in NC, I believe it would be better to load an old save from before sneaking up on Everett and Booner. This time, don't ignore it and talk to the commander. (keeping it secret will make him like you more, and blackmailing will make him dislike you). On the other hand, you mentioned that Feliar was killed, so yeah, inviting him to the official meeting will only be optional if you had saved him.

considering it's a choice i made... i don't know how long ago, a year + maybe? i guess my only real option would be to restart... maybe one day if something important gets linked to this questline but for the time being i suppose i'll be living with that mistake

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so i think the game can be enjoyable, but starting out fresh again with the new update i definitely think the beginning area has been made worse.

for one that double bandit encounter is pretty much a game over encounter if your libido bar is even slightly filled. second it feels like the bats have been given a higher evasion chance turning an already annoying enemy into an unbearable enemy, i actually had to save scum during 4 separate bat encounters because despite having 12 agility i was somehow missing EVERY attack but getting hit by every attack from the bat. it took almost a full half hour to clear out those bats.

it also feels like your libido bar fills up much much faster than it used to causing you to lose fights much easier than before. speaking of, another thing that bugs me is the female bandit being able to raise your libido if your character is gay because that massively breaks immersion just having a gay character getting turned on by something that shouldn't turn them on what-so-ever.

Are you using a bow against the bats? Using ranged attacks increases the accuracy against flying creatures (bats, hornets, harpies, etc.). I think the merchant that hires Gunnar sells a bow and arrow.

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Hope we'll get a sprite for Tank without his mask to go with the scenes where he removes it :3

Hi when I want to get ahead in the events it says The REST of THE EVENT is STILL working IN PROGRESS and this happens in all events what should I do

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It means rest of the event hasn't been developed yet, there isn't any content left for you to play.

An update❤️❤️, thankyou Hyao!!

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Did some save edits to see how the top Logan route goes and despite the game getting really screwed up I managed to get two hearts from him. OMG I love this guy! I'll replay the game to have a proper save for this. I wish we had interactions like this in the bottom Logan route.

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See!! Told ya ☺️, I love Logan sm❤️❤️

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bottom logan is proper logan

I prefer him too, but we barely converse with him. It's almost as if he just turns into a sex machine. I wish there was more stuff.

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Do you guys know if we're still going to be able to get more content about Logan's wife, Selena? Because Logan is datable, which possibly means she's dead 🤷. I would save Selena if I could and help the two fix their problems so they can live happily ever after. Besides, I have my Bernard. Also, I found in the sanity endings that when you lose to werewolf Logan (Logan's Bitch), he will drag you deeper into the den, where surprisingly, you will find Selena, who is also a slave of the wolves. You both will be bred mercilessly until death... But for now, if you didn't get the sanity ending, you will find nothing in the den, so I'm kinda confused. Is she 💀?? Hopefully not...

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I doubt it. I feel like it was a one and done thing. She might as well be dead.

You never know tho.

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She is not dead, in the Alpha-werewolf "bad end" you become a sex toy in the wolf den together with Selena...

Korg left my hut because I used a love potion with him while giving him a massage... I can't finish the Orc war event because of it... Do I have to do something particular to get him back?

I don't think there's a way to get him back once he's left. Additionally, I can see that you've gained a black heart from your actions, causing him to dislike you. It would probably be better to load a save from before he left and avoid giving him any more love potions.

Noted. I've been having probably the worst luck with this game... Might just uninstall and wait a bit before playing again.

Don't worry. I think you can still give him the potion afterwards, just not before the orc war because Korg is the main key to start it.

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I see.. The only reason I'm uninstalling is because I've been having other bugs with the game, and when I install after uninstalling the bugs are still there. Only after waiting around a week and reinstalling do they go away. Because don't get me wrong if they went away right after uninstalling I would keep playing because I fucking love this game. Sadly, it doesn't work that way at least from my experience.

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I have a couple of questions. Firstly, I still haven't made progress with the Dulrig conversation: crawlers hide. How do I start it? The second might contain spoilers, so I'll cover it, 














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I saw in the update notes that you can invite Feliar to the Bareshade assembly, and I would like to do that. I did stand against Mirage, but then she killed her children. How do I get Feliar to take my side ToT? I'll try to find a save before the war and do it all over again to save him, so please help ;-;

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Not sure what you mean with "crawlers hide"? Do you mean the talk about emerine crystal? You can mine the crystal in the golem cave, then you can talk to Dulrig about it.

As for Feliar, the game scores your relationship with him and you pass if it's at least 10:

  • 60 likes (4 points), or 30 likes (2 points)
  • Do the comforting talk (1 point)
  • Do the love potion scheme (1 point)
  • Mention the "FELIAR IS A LIAR" writing to him and say you trust him (1 point)
  • Invite him to the fair (3 points)
  • Talk to him about Everett's visits where they fuck (4 points)

Same scoring is done with Vicoria:

  • 60 likes (5 points), or 30 likes (3 points)
  • Romance novel gifted at least two times (5 points)
  • You got Arion to fuck Vicoria (5 points)

I hope this helps! 

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Fortunately, I found a save before the war where I have 62 likes from Feliar and -4 from Victoria ;-; (I'll try to save her too). Overall, how many likes should I get from both of them to have them take my side??

Tnx for replying! 

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You have enough for Feliar, you just need to do the other steps I mentioned. For Vicoria, you'll have to get her to at least 60 likes and gift her romance novels if you didn't bring Arion to Vicoria for saving Ste. You can do all the steps just to be safe.

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Last question then, how exactly do I get them to take my side? During my fight with mirage? Will there be an option or a scene? Or can I talk to them beforehand? 

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During the fight when they appear they take your side automatically. You don't do anything.

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This is my opinion, The game's story is great, and the characters are very likeable

But in the downside, I feel the designs sizes should be normalized, they are buffer than they should, like, how are you supposed to survive a night with them?

I mean, if they are big its ok, but the musculature feels unbalanced sometimes like with the blacksmith

At least with the human characters, Lycans and Lizardmen look more realistic somehow as their proportions feel more balanced

I feel like female designs are more appealing on this game as they feel more realistic and inmersive on the sizes

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I respect your opinion but if the game tries to cater to the "Normie/Mainstream" mindset to make things more realistic for the sake of "'muh immersion" then it loses its appeal to its target audience who are in majority, Bara lovers. The main appeal for this game is the Bara art; good story and likeable characters are just sweet sweet cherry on top.

There are other games that offer a more immersive experience but none of them even offer characters(visually) like this one. Unless you count the Hulk, it's quite rare. In BG3 there's Halsin but compared to these guys', the dude's a twink. 

There's Coral Island which I must say have some stunning characters, but there's only one character there that's Bara coded. At least in this game there's a whole range of personalities I could choose from and have them still be Bara coded. 

The only character I've seen similar to the ones here from a more "immersive" gaming experience is Iron Bull from DAI. But he's not even that hairy. 

If you want an immersive VN experience with immersive body types there's "Coming Out on Top" as well as "Dead Dating". A more simplistic style though but has immersive body types as well is "Robin Morningwood Adventure".

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Correct!!💯, you explained it so well

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I respect your opinion too, but I dont mean that the Bara is the problem, I mean more of logics, I mean, the bara is valid, but muscles are unbalanced, to me, Bara is when you see guys on top condition having romance, but in this case the downside is that it maybe goes a little over the lines of bara, making it really uncomfortable for some in some instances

I can make a comparision, the Blacksmith is one of those who are unbalanced and have muscles that dont make a lot of sense, while the lizard hunter of the swamp is great because his anatomy is bigger, but balanced, making it more appealing

My point is that you can survive a night with the lizard, but not with the blacksmith

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This game isn't meant to be immersive nor logical. I mean, you fight bad guys by having sex with them on the battlefield for goodness sake. It takes on an absurdist approach, especially on the masculinity aesthetics. And that's the style Hyao stuck with. Why else would everyone, including their grampas be a bara hunka-loompa in this world. Even the animals are... bara hunka-licious. It's a game meant for suspending ones disbelief.  

There's been plenty, and I mean, plenty of debates like these before with straight male gazed games and their obsession with watermelon boobs. And they never really conform with what people deem "realistic" and just do what they want because it's not really meant for the masses.

But alright, let's apply all that anatomically correct logic to all of the game: 

- Bernard wouldn't be buff because he's just a merchant. He wouldn't even need all that muscle to do his job and livelihood in such a small town anyway. He would be lean with only a bit of muscularity, but he wouldn't be big.

- The bandits would all be skinny as well since apparently they have a supply problem and they can be beaten by a mere herbalist, further supporting this point that they're probably weaker from their lack of supplies. 

- The lizards wouldn't have pecs because realistically, they're not mammals who would need nipples. They would look more like the lizardmen from Divinity Original Sin 2.

- A huge majority of the men in Bareshade wouldn't even be buff because only Logan has a homemade gym and I doubt he would share it with the rest of the people. 

- Heck, even the Nameless One wouldn't even need all that muscle because his greatest asset is his mind. A character like that already exist in another game called BG3 and no thank you, I prefer the Nameless One.

So that would be what... a huge chunk of the Lower Aigran side being unappealing (at least to bara lovers), leaving only Logan and Gunnar who both have physically demanding jobs, to be the more appealing romanceable/fuckable candidates. In a Bara porn game. 

Might as well just play Skyrim with sex mods or DOS2 lol. because excluding the Argonians, the body types there are much more logical and realistic. 

EDIT: I hope you don't take this as me being mean lol. I was reading what I was writing in my head and it doesn't seem dickish in my voice but I don't really know how other people would take and read these. So yeah, just clarifying.

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I would like to give my own opinion too. Personally, I believe that this game is perfect just the way it is. Games are meant for our entertainment, and as I understand it, you keep mentioning that the way the characters are designed doesn't make any sense and is "unrealistic," thereby making it unappealing, tho entertainment varies from person to person. For me, I play lustful desires as a kind of stress reliever; a way for my problems to fade away. You could say it's a means of "escaping from reality." So, is it truly necessary to always be logical and balanced when your main goal is simply to have fun?? 

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I mean, IDK, I just feel its a little weird, like, I dont complain of magic or clothes, but IDK, I feel is hot when you see stuff and It makes a perfect sense in the mind, or IDK, the game does not need to change, I just believe it could be hot if some guys muscles were nerfed for aesthetics, still being Bara of course, Bara men are still hot, dont get me wrong

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OMG! Thank you for Logan's story. I've been hyped with Logan since before he fights and becomes the Alpha. That is very fulfilling. Just love the tsundere guy.


I really love the Black Wolf quest. I would look forward to meet him again. I'd love to give him antiglycan potion. Not so sure if it would help though.


I enjoy how the game keeps growing. I really engage in the story.

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Everything is pointing at Groth being straight and not being interested in men... I'm gonna cry...

At least there's still Korg.

After you progress far enough in the lizard tribe path, you can give him a lust incense and it unlocks a special scene.

Oh what? Can you tell me more? How do you even give it to him? I don't have an option to gift him anything.

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I think they got Grushk and Groth mixed up. but yeah, it's a shame. but since the nameless quest, it's been apparent that Groth might be straight after all. I hope in the future he'd be interested in the MC at the very least.

Lol you're correct, i got them switched,

But there is a night with Nameless that you can have some fun with Groth.

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yeah that's the nameless quest part I meant when I mentioned it because having sex with him is a red option. I thought it was because it's nonconsensual but the more I progressed, he just kept talking about girls so I kinda guessed on that quest. again, I hope MC still have a chance in the future because he's like the only fun and unserious orc so far.

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I wonder if Bottom Logan can uh... persuade him. Dunno how he does it but he sure can make a lot of men into fucking him.

pretty sure he's not straight, but Bi. I think I can remember a scene where he flirted back with me as a dude when I was flirting with him. also I'm nearly certain if you say you had "friends" during a certain event when he asks if anyone is waiting for us to come back he responds that he has had a couple as well.

and something kinda funny is I'm pretty sure Hyao hasn't made a single character that's purely straight from what I can remember lol. maybe some characters claimed they were straight but they all turned out Bi when we appeared to seduce the hell out of them lmao.

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I hope you are right. The game seems to be going for Rose x Groth right now, but to be fair I love Rose so I wouldn't mind that outcome either.

well it might not be that way, they might just be interested in having fun instead of romance because Groth also gets flirted with by Viccoria if you save her and I think he flirts back. also she has a second potential partner in blackwolf since it seems like she had a thing for him from when she talks about him.

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If I remember correctly, in the aftermath of the war, our MC asked Groth, "you into men?" And Groth avoided the question. It's not a yes, but most importantly, it's not a no, so yeah, don't lose hope!! Instead... 

Is there a certain pet name you have to choose? I am having such a hard time naming my pets, every attempt I make at naming my pet it just sends me straight back to the "Check on animals" option. What do I do about this because I can't finish the "Tame a raptor" quest without naming my pet first, or I think... Any tips?

i never had to name my raptor, just make sure u take it with u when speaking to the witch and if you're on PC pressing "enter" after u get a name should save it

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no, names are entirely optional. for example I named my first ever wolf Amicus and nothing changed other than his name. also as Mirage said, you just gotta take it with you to finish it. if the quest isn't there at the time you visit the witch just wait until the opposite time.

This is the only option I get when interacting with every pet I have (including the horse); when I finish typing out the name and hitting enter it says "what do you want to do now?" As if I hadn't entered the name at all. This seems to be a reoccurring issue as I have done multiple playthroughs and still can't get past this simple task.

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Are you trying to take the horse with you? You do that through that "hammer" button located in your picture. Then you press the "Animals" button on bottom left, and you can take out your horse from there.

Yes, whenever I try it has the same result, "Name the horse." To be honest I might just uninstall and wait a little while because I've been having issues with many other things as well.

Don't lose hope. I actually went through the same issue; however, I just kept trying to rename them over and over again until the names appeared.


Look

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Just curious, do any of you people have a favorite dick (or Knot) you like looking at in the game? Mine's Gunnar, that Mustache Northcrest Guard, and the Red Orc enemies (Bald and Mohawk). I just know those dicks look and smell musky as hell lol. 

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Gotta vote for Tank here. Bridge Troll ain't half bad, too. Neither is Nameless, while we're on it.

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Ooh, so you like 'em tapered dicks lol (thick at the center and slightly slimmer towards the tip). I can't remember what the Bridge Troll's dick looks like though. It was annoying having to pay the toll every time so I kinda bought the pass to cross whenever I wanted and then I kinda just forgot he existed all this time. 

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Khalgor and Dulrig's dicks are very mesmerizing.

Oh yeah, Dulrig's got a nice one as well. Honestly, I think all of the dwarves are packing lol. 

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Definitely gonna throw my vote in for werewolf Logan, wish there was more to do with bottom Logan, but lately I've been riding Boomer's Grizzly quite a bit.

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Lol I was thinking of adding human Logan as well since he's got some nice pink dick head. 

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is there a limit to the number we can respond with? cause I gotta quite a couple favs lmao.

Logan and Roushk are all of them

I mean most orcs and Beastmen. Orgram and Groth's naked teaser images from twitter like last year were awesome, and even if Everett never uses his dick that ones pretty good too. Tao, Rat king, Satyr's, demon Satyr's, werewolves in general and Hugo for Beastmen.

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Booner's Grizzly, looks so thicc lol. The Orc Brute's too, and nameless... Aghhh, there's just so many of them.. ♥️❤️

I got a new computer so I decided to start a new game. During the first interaction with Gunnar, I clicked "Tease him back" and apparently it caused him to never interact with my character again. 

What's especially annoying, however, is that even after I restarted again, he still refused to interact with my character, as if I had already made the same choice.

I made it all the way up to after the battle with Scar and the river interaction before I realized that there'd be no further opportunities to have sex scenes with him. So I decided to restart one more time, and noticed the same pattern yet again of Gunnar not interacting with my character despite not talking to them.

I'm probably just going to erase my log and try again with a whole new slate, but I thought it might be a good idea to flag it if need be.

Okay, so I'm guessing that the game files aren't saved in the folder it comes with. Cuz I just deleted the entire folder, erased the recyling bin, re-downloaded it wholesale, and yet for some strange reason... all of my saves are still there. 

Which also means that Gunnar refusing to interact with me is also still there, despite restarting. 

I really think that this game needs a "Nuke" button or something, cuz this is starting to upset me. Apparently I can't get a clean install on this computer.

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Goto AppData (hidden) and Renpy folder, delete the LD folder there, as well as the save folder in the game folder.

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isn't the Nameless the only person who can make your choice unchangeable? I'm like 100% certain Gunnar does not have the ability to do it as well, so this is most likely a bug. did you do anything to the files beforehand? no one's ever had this kind of problem so could you share some of the things you did before talking to Gunnar and choosing that?

I was able to delete the AppData and erase the saves. But it still seems weird. No matter how many times I take a rest on the road, Gunnar never comes up to me. The Merchant offers to sell stuff, but the Cocky Guard never makes a move other than touching himself and going "..."

This, despite having a Lewd fame of 16, and a 100 affinity with the Bandits, to give an idea of how often I've done this.

Now that I think about it though, the main difference between the first time I did this on the new computer and now, is that I think I locked all of my orientation attributes, which I did not do originally. Granted, I locked them as homosexual submissive male, so I'm not entirely certain what the issue is regarding Gunnar. 

Probably gonna try restarting one more time, leaving the orientations unlocked and seeing if that has some sort of effect. Cuz otherwise, I'm stumped as to what the issue is.

I got a little curious and decided to make a new save to try and do what you did to see if it would appear on my end and almost literally 10 seconds after I chose tease him back he showed up again and let me change my choice from tease him back to encourage or reject the offer.

also I locked in everything you said you had locked so I don't think it's that. 

and a quick question, do you restart from the literal beginning or are you loading previous saves from before you made that choice? and what days do you look for him? I think I remember reading somewhere you can't find Gunnar in the exact same spot after unlocking Northcrest, or maybe it's meeting scar and winning. also I decided to check if I could get the scene on a save where I had already unlocked Northcrest and even when he was near in bareshade he wouldn't come out on the tracks after checking for a couple in game days he was around and days he wasn't.

and another question, you said you can encounter him and the merchant at the river, does Gunnar have an option when you talk to him to ask for a rematch? if it does, you can actually use that by seducing him and submitting early which will unlock other scenes by increasing his like, not the track one though. I believe that one might get locked after a certain point of the northcrest storyline. not sure where though.

Hi, Just a quick question when you restart do you ever change your player stats, cause if so I know that for Gunnar to approach you your appearance stat has to be above either a 6 or 7, then he should approach. If it's not that then I have no clue.

Shit, that might be it, thanks. 

Yep, it was this. 

After restarting, I kinda thought, "hey, if I get the Harness from Barrel so early on, I won't need appearance, better increase my perception and intellect!"

Apparently, it's better to be a bimbo than brilliant, alas. At least, if you want the attentions of a sexy Cocky guardsman.

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